Maria Barnas is a Dutch writer, poet and artist. She lives and works in Amsterdam and Berlin. Both in her written work, including novels, poetry and essays and in her visual work, she focuses on how description shapes reality. The weekend extra of the newspaper 'Het Parool' interviewed her about her work and personal life. We were asked to make portraits of her for the cover and to accompany the interview inside the magazine and had fun using different shapes of office utensils.